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Gengar_Chi's avatar

The kind of "faith" I've seen rising is not exactly of the sincere kind. Mostly it's a status marker among online sub-cultures to appear "trad" (Catholicism) or "ultratrad" (Orthodoxy). I've seen very little resurgence of actual penance, thanksgiving, charity, etc. So you know, as always in our fake world, it's just talk the talk without much walking the walk.

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Pedro L. Gonzalez's avatar

Rust Cohle smoking a cigarette meme

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Joe Beaver's avatar

My understanding of the various ideologies swirling the Western internet today are derivations upon derivations of Christianity. Even your scientific atheists are “christians” since they assume right and wrong, without acknowledging the poetic basis for its origin, deciding not to personify a “man in the sky”, instead wrapping it in terms like “common sense.” I would say that Locke’s impact on the Americans was just another theology, only rights-based. The right-to-life crowd and pro-choice (right to privacy) crowds are no different than shiite and sunni muslims arguing over who’s the true heir of the Prophet. Which, sorry Jefferson, rights are not self-evident. At least Hobbes had the mind to root equality in our mutual ability to kill one another, instead of add his two cents to the reformation like Locke, creating forever reformations like eternally recurring revolutions. I think a great deal of this interest in the other poetries stems from a “Last-manism” from liberalism as a product of Christiandom - that it too will collapse upon the hollow weight of itself and its easily poked dogmas. Christiandom grew by absorbing, wearing the clothing of its pagan ancestors as a kind of psychological pantheism that was able to maintain a unity by Roman coffers. People now are realizing the futility of laws to effectuate desired ends in humans. I saw that as a JD. Laws really do not help you unless you have money. Even if you are affluent, how is any wrongful death suit money equivalent to a grandfather I never knew due to asbestos-induced mesothelioma. Westerners today are remembering that poetry, with its multifaceted methods to view the Divine, prove to be a much better way to influence behavior. People are healthier when they view themselves as spirits, even beholden some lower diety or demon, than to the nihilism of a 9 to 5, with consumerism to numb the pain. Christianity’s insistence not to read the “less savory” influences of other traditions in its own canon is coming to an end. One’s interest and embrace of life-affirmation returns when he sees polytheism in the Bible, nods to reincarnation by Jesus in regard to Elijah, numerology rampant, zodiacs, connection between Revelation’s seals and Kundalini. The test is power, where the less savory forms of poetry can still be fought off by might to make right, to make the remake the World in the image of something more beautiful, where pedastry is condemned to death for example. As Nietzsche says in Beyond Good and Evil, every philsophy, including the Stoics, seek to evangelize the world, remaking in its own image. Thus, as the false veil of materialistic liberalism is lifted, we each must carve out our own good in the world, guided by a war between poetries. For what Socrates tried to do in saving Athens from men like him, there’s now a Socrates on every corner and every podcast. The cat is out of the bag on corrupters to social order - we’re all that now. What remains is this lie still trotted out, for thee but not for me, that assumes there’s this overarching principle of justice we all aim toward, more or less. The lie must be shaken that right makes might, for might truly makes right. Socrates knew that when he fooled Thrasymachus. The false dilemma that Christiandom left us is whether there is God, or no God. Truly, the real question is which God. If you believe YHWH is the true God, the correct understanding of what is Divine and Beautiful, and his word makes right, then you already endorse the true definition of justice. Otherwise, you come out one the other side of the Euthyphro problem where you should sympathize with the Babylonians of Genesis, united as a species. All this to say, whether it was Covid madness, Pluto entering Aquarius, or both and more, energies are shifting, seen and unseen.

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Captain Jack's avatar

Deep stuff . . . as for the "trad" or "ultratrads" being FAKE? Or not sincere? That's a very subjective judgment!

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